Friday, November 04, 2005

Halloween or Harvest?

So this past October 31st brought back the debate among Christians about Halloween. I commented on a post on Obie's blog so I thought I would try and get some more discussion on it on mine. Anyhow, how do you feel about Halloween? Is it satan's holiday? Should Christians even participate in it?

Here's my view. I think that most kids just think of it as a night they get to dress up in a costume and go door to door and get candy (or throw eggs at houses and cars like I did when I was a kid heh heh heh!). In my opinion, this is totally harmless. I also think it should be left up to the parents in how they bring up their children. I certainly would not criticize a parent for their beliefs and what they allow or don't allow their children to do. I do believe there is a darkside to Halloween that involves witchcraft and the occult and all things evil. But do kids even know that? If they are messing around with this stuff and sincerely believe in it, then yes, I would say that this is wrong.

Where do you draw the line? I belonged to a very legalistic church previously, of which will remain unnamed. But there were parents in this church that thought it was wrong to tell your kids there is a Santa Claus. They said it was lying to your kids. Is it? The same things go for the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. I guess I can't argue that it is not a lie because they don't really exist. But am I a bad parent for telling my kids they do? I still have some pretty good friends that go to this church and thay had a special event on Halloween. A question was brought up in the board meeting as to whether or not they would allow kids to come if they dressed up in costume. Is that legalistic or what?

What are you going to do when a homosexual comes into your church service? Are you going to tell him or her that they are not welcome because of their sexual preference? Jesus himself sat and broke bread with the worst of the worst. Shouldn't we do the same?

I get sick and tired of the ultra conservative folks coming down on others that don't believe their way. To me, they are just as wrong as the liberals. I am always getting these emails to send off to places to boycott them because they are homosexual friendly or they sell dirty magazines. Why would these people even want to step foot inside of a church if this is how we react to them?

I could go on and on about this but I think I'll stop for now. There is nothing wrong with churches having Harvest Festivals (our church had one...and oh my! I saw some people with some pretty evil costumes on. No one escorted them off the premises or told them to take it off). But I could see where it could happen. But I also see nothing wrong with kids dressing up and going trick or treating. Who's right? Who's wrong? I guess I don't really know the answer to that but I do know where I stand on it.


Blogger FreeThinker said...

Here's my view: Halloween is all about fun. There's no such thing as the supernatural anyway, so why feel guilty about some fun and fantasy?

2:19 PM  
Blogger I-AM-C-Money said...

Smack'em upside the head with a Donald Miller book and tell them to read it, then go back and read The Bible and figure it out. . .

. . .In love, of course. . . !

And I'm all for trick-or-treating because the wifey never buys the good stuff. So I have to take it from my kids. . . heh heh heh

4:14 PM  
Blogger Keith said...

Freethinker, I totally agree with you that it is all about fun. But I will disagree with you on the supernatural thing. I believe in good and evil. A Holy God and satan. I appreciate your view though. If you like to read books, may I suggest a book to you? The title is Blue Like Jazz and the author is Donald Miller. I think you could appreciate it. If you do choose to read it, please let me know what you thought of it.

Carl, loved the Donald Miller comment. I just can't wait for his next book.

5:25 PM  
Blogger I-AM-C-Money said...

I just started Miller's "Prayer and the Art of Volkswagen Maintenance." I have already read "Blue Like Jazz" and "Searching for God Knows What." "Prayer. . ." is the original version of "Through Painted Deserts," it was his first book, but didn't do well so quickly went out of print. He re-released it since he has enjoyed popularity since "Blue. . ." I think I like this one best of all. And it is interesting to see how his faith has grown while he's actually become less mainstream in his later works. He even admits to being a Republican in "Prayer. . ." which he clearly is NOT in the later books. But, they're all good and they have really challenged me to consider my relationship with God and how I respond to His unending love and infinite grace. Really looking forward to getting to AZ for Christmas!

7:26 PM  
Blogger Keith said...

Republican or Democrat. Who cares? I'm a registered Republican but I certainly didn't vote a full party line when I voted. Personally, I like President Bush and believe he is doing a great job. But I sure hope that McCain runs in 2008.

9:49 PM  
Anonymous Gordon Vaughan said...


I found your blog looking for something more about the Lee Grady article (I understand why names aren't named, but if it's as bad as he says, folks deserve to know).

Anyway, regarding Halloween, I thought you might be interested to know that in our church we celebrate the day as Reformation Day, with a short service followed by dinner, games and pinatas. It seems to be a good way to handle it, and always is a lot of fun.

In the Houston area, trick-or-treating has never been the same since 1975, when there was a really bad case of a boy being poisoned and killed. Actually, it soon turned out that his own dad had done it (having taken out a big life insurance policy just days earlier). Many folks do let their kids go around, but that case was really the impetus in this area for church events to take the place of trick-or-treating.

6:52 PM  

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